Chase Can Bite Me

by Sean





Ouch
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With the success of our recently discovered income source, all of a sudden we have a healthy chunk of extra debt destroying powers. Since we have a variety of potential targets, we sat down recently to decide which target was most deserving of the full wrath we could focus on it, and made plans accordingly.

Since none of our debts vary all that much in interest rates, we thought we’d take the Dave Ramsey route and go smallest to largest. So, looking at the latest State of the Debt, that would mean knocking out the medical debt, followed by the HELOC, followed by the Low Energy Loan, followed by the Chase card, and then finally the mortgage.

But upon checking the balances of our various accounts online this afternoon, the order has been altered a bit. I noticed that Chase was ten bucks higher than YNAB said it should be. Wanting to fix what was likely an entry error on my part, I investigated further. Only to discover a mystery Account Service Charge for $10. Being as I had no idea what it was for, I sent off a quick email inquiring about it. I received this back:

As your credit card company, we value your business. It’s important to us that we address your questions regarding the terms associated with your account. Thank you for sharing your concerns with us.

We consistently review our business practices to ensure that we provide valued services and remain competitive in the business. As noted in your Cardmember Agreement, we may change the terms associated with your account and will notify you of the change in writing in accordance with applicable law.

Our records indicate that a Change in Terms notice was sent to you in November 2008, which advised of the addition of a $10.00 Account Service Fee and a change to the required minimum payment for your account, effective as of your January 2009 billing statement. Please note that the Annual Percentage Rate (APR) on your account is not changing and you may continue to take advantage of the promotional APR currently in effect on your account.

First off, Chase doesn’t send me a thing. I am enrolled to receive electronic statement, and haven’t received a single piece of paper from them since the last time they sent me a new card because the last had expired.

Nevertheless, searching out past statements just to see what I have apparently agreed to, I find a pdf of my Change in Terms Notice. Along with my Bose Sound Offer and my Holiday Rewards craptacular junk jewelry offer, which I had to check out because who knows what else they may have decided to sign me up for, as they can pretty much arbitrarily change the agreement to whatever strikes their fancy. (And in case you were wondering, nope, no Bose radio is on the way, nor any overpriced costume jewelry!)

And here is the gist of the Changes to my Terms, my emphasis added:

We’re sending you this notice to advise you of some new changes to your credit card account. These changes will take place automatically and will be effective with your January 2009 statement.

Here’s a summary of the key changes:

  • A new Account Service Charge of $10 per month will be applied to your account.
  • Your minimum payment due will increase from 2% to 5% of the ending balance on your monthly statement. As a result, your required monthly minimum payment will increase.

Important: Your APRs will not be impacted by these changes.

The key factors we considered when making these changes include the current APRs and revolving balances associated with your account.

The minimum payment jump of 3% doesn’t bother me so much. Only, quite honestly, because we can afford it now. Six months ago, it would have caused some serious hardship. There is a world of difference between a $324 minimum payment and a $850 one!

But the $10 a month Account Service Charge? That’s just petty. And pettiness deserves, well, a swift kick to the nether regions.

If you have any questions regarding these changes, please contact us by calling the customer service number on the back of your card.

Hello, Chase CSR? Please close my account. Immediately. I’ll scrape together the cash to pay it in full by the end of the month.

Oh, and bite me.

  • What I don't get is this - the mortgage industry is highly regulated, the financial services (securities, insurance) are highly regulated, yet the credit card industry is allowed to get away with pretty much anything they want. Most banks these days push their credit card services the most since it represents their most profitable income source. There is no limit to what fees these companies can dream up.
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  • That is why I cut up all my cards!!
  • Wonder what else to expect from the organisations..
  • I hate chase. Have CC and Mtg with them and it's nothing but trouble.Good luck
  • Chase sucks I personally use and advocate all other people with chase to use citibank dividend platinum plus. Its got tons of rewards and features that are really useful. I get tons of reward points each month that i use for gas and other cool stuff.

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  • SPECTRO42
    HOLIDAY REWARDS CRAPTACULAR JUNK JEWELRY OFFER.LOL I tought I was the only one that got this offer. [MADE IN CHINA...LEAD...LOOK OUT!!!!!!]
  • No, I cannot accept the terms & Conditions of credit card companies. I really hate these companies. They are earning big profit and we lose a lot. I suggest you to keep away from these companies.
  • Thats precisely the cause why I don’t posse a credit card !

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  • Thanks for giving some info's and thanks for sharing.

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  • I continue to find discussions on the Internet about this issue with Chase. I wish to add that the so-called "service charge" is indeed a "finance charge" as indicated in the actual change in terms notice. This is a critical nuance, because it means that the originally promised "fixed APR Until the balance is paid in full" promotional rates have in fact been violated. My site is presently tracking 5 class action lawsuits that are associated with this matter. I wish you all the best.

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  • I have a chase card, and fortunately haven't had any problems yet, but this news doesn't sit well.
  • I would have dumped them too. It's fortunate that you have the money to pay off your account in full and move on. $10 a month Account Service Charge is outrageous in addition to the interest rates you are already paying. I am fortunate enough to have been able to get myself out of credit card debt years ago and I don't ever want to get back in deep again.
  • A $10 per month fee? That's ridiculous! I guess they are seeing what they can get away with. I'm sure they have lots of customers who need to keep the account and are just going to have to eat the fee. I truly dislike the fact that a credit card company can arbitrarily change the loan agreement mid stream. It should only apply to new cardholders. Of course, some probably wouldn't sign up then....

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  • Nice info you have here..
    I'll use this a lot..thanks
    and nice site too :D

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  • Well, credit card companies have been known to lie until they are blue in the face. This symptom of greed is quite common amongst all the credit card companies. Did you know that they cahrge interest upon the interest due? And as you had pointed out, they can change the terms as and when it suits them to. Yeah, when it comes to credit card companies, you will have to read the small print to know what you are letting yourself in for!
  • Credit cards are bad news. All they want to do is make money off of you. If they were unwilling to change back to your original rate I would take my business elsewhere and let them know why you did.
  • I dumped all my cards a few years ago and keep one for emergency situations. I rely on cash and a debtit card only. Credit card companies are very successful at keeping people in debt and my biggest gripe with them is they target college students. No college student is going to ignore the chance of having a card they can just swipe and have all the fun they want.

    Then is falls on the parents to pay the bill and bail the kid out. Credut card companies know this and use it for that very reason! All credit card companies can bit me!!

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  • I have credit card and I used to monitor the every month statement. But but he end of the year 2008 they have charged me 1300 as consolidated charge so i decided not to use card hereafter.
  • I think you should be the one who's biting Chase. $10 is small but it's like you were being robbed so it becomes an issue. Credit card companies are like vampires. Thankfully, most of us are discovering their true colors. Thanks for sharing the info about Chase. I'll pass it around to all my friends who are still using it.
  • nice work, i thought we were through the dark ages in credit cards with service fees and such. nice post though, i like the vengeful wrath on debt.
  • That's funny that you are canning your Chase card, while I am in the middle of paying down some of my Chase personal card. I have always done my business accounts with Chase. We've enjoyed their online bill pay and how they text me a password is also cool. However- I think the sneaky fees are insane. Your comments make me what to take a closer look at my bill. We are supposed to be 0% till June. Like to pay them off, or play the old, "move my debt" game.
  • I have credit cards, but I don’t use them, only when they don’t take anything else, credit companies try to take you for everything you have, however senate just passed a good credit card reform Bill, it will limit a lot of credit card expenses such as late payment fees and interest rates, it will be enforce in 2011, I think.
  • Clare
    Thats exactly the reason why I dont have a credit card !
  • Paying it off may be a stretch, but we have enough space on our HELOC to take care of the rest if needed. Either way, Chase will be done by the end of the month.
  • Misery loves company, Sean! I'm jealous that you'll scrape together enough money to pay it off at the end of the month. I have to go and whore myself out to another cc company. And yes, they can all bite me too!

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  • Man... those sneaky credit card companies!

    I just recently applied for a credit card, even though I hate them.... I was quite disappointed though, they only approved me a credit line of $500, and its quite a shame too, I have good credit. The credit line of $500 was like a slap in the face to me, because I was hoping for somewhere around $10,000. I guess it just goes to show, the economic times....

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  • Would be interesting to know if the changes are company wide, or just to certain customers.

    I'm probably not their most profitable customer, as the debt on the card is the remains of our taking advantage of some locked in for life low interest balance transfers.

    This may just be their way to get me to leave. Or, to make it impossible for me to remain current, thus violating the terms of those balance transfers and letting them jack my rate up into the stratosphere.

    Still fuming a bit, but I do think it's funny that they killed off a $70 per month income stream to try to squeeze out another $10. ;)
  • I have electronic statements as well...so I guess I need to check if I got those fees and increases too.

    I don't carry a balance on the Chase card so an increase would not bother me right now but that $10 fee really is horrible.

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