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State of the Debt, The Capital Market Failure Edition

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So it looks like we’re in collapse and people are killing each other in the streets. Oh, wait, no, not really.

Sure, the markets are having a fit, which makes it painful to look at our retirement accounts. Except that we aren’t planning on touching them for many years, so eh. Feel a little bad for the baby boomers inching up on retirement, but really, not much. Yes, I know that schadenfreude isn’t exactly a positive emotion or anything, but many of them have defined their lives by excess so they shouldn’t be surprised when it comes around to bite ‘em. A little frugality isn’t perhaps a terrible thing.

Countdown to Meltdown
Creative Commons License photo credit: missdesigndiva

Meanwhile our politicians are tripping over themselves trying to do, well, I don’t really know. Looks like they are hellbent on trying to find a way to spend my son’s future income in an effort to stave off what will be an admittedly painful correction. Personally, being a free market kind of guy, I say go ahead and let it correct. But I am probably missing the big picture.

That said, at least in our household, things are certainly not flying off track. In fact, despite the supposed tightening of the credit market, we just received notice that one of our credit cards has substantially increased it’s limit. Thanks, but we really don’t need it. We won’t mention that to the government, because they may just decide they need that as well! ;)

We did a decent job of killing off more debt this month. Broke well past the $1000 mark. And honestly are still living quite comfortably even with that kind of progress. We could probably introduce a little more pain and get the ball rolling a little faster. But that’s a budgeting issue, not a reporting one.

I’ve been having a lot of fun recently with my side business, and it’s beginning to really take off. Right now it is not adding any to our debt attack plan, as I am stockpiling cash right now in anticipation of further expansion. The holidays are rapidly approaching, and I have a feeling I’ll be spending a fair amount on advertising soon!

Oh, and oops, I will take a cue from Wall Street and restate some debt. I misread a medical bill statement and understated that debt by around $800. Where’s my bailout? ;)

  Aug 31′08 Sept 30′08 Change
EVERYTHING We Owe
Credit Card Debts
Chase $17,757.23 $17,476.08 ($281.15)
Other Debts
Home Mortgage 38,465.14 38,415.61 (49.53)
Low Energy Loan 14,303.58 14,178.37 (125.21)
Line of Credit 22,826.29 22,546.34 (279.95)
Medical Debt 4,815.31 4,315.31 (500.00)
TOTAL Liabilities $98,167.55 $96,931.71 ($1,235.84)

State of the Debt, The Doc’s Car Payment Edition

As expected, we suffered a little setback in debt reduction progress this month when a batch of medical bills arrived. And just as expected, there is no such thing as a cheap medical procedure, so of course we maxed out my wife’s portion of the deductible. Since the deductible on the plan I get through work is fairly high, well, likewise our final bill.

The first obvious lesson is that going without health insurance in this day and age is a sure route to financial ruin. I’m not thrilled with a fairly large bill, but it could have been far larger had we been without coverage!

And since health insurance was forefront in our minds, the wife and I decided to do a little comparison shopping to see what it would cost to get a decent policy on our own. One with perhaps a better deductible. Maybe look into a HSA to get a little tax advantage. That sort of thing.

We used the health coverage comparison engine at eHealthInsurance to look into a pretty broad range of policies. One things was obvious from the get go: we could — assuming we qualify for the plans, of course — get health insurance for a heck of a lot cheaper than what my employer is currently paying on us. Especially after an upcoming rate increase goes into effect.

I broached the subject of dropping us from the group coverage and instead getting a salary increase on par with the plan’s premium with my employer, and he certainly didn’t rule the idea out. So yesterday we submitted an application to see if we could qualify for one of the mid-range plans that meets our needs, halves our deductible(!), and qualifies as an HSA plan to boot.

Anyway, enough rambling for today. :) On to the raw numbers:

  July 31′08 Aug 31′08 Change
EVERYTHING We Owe
Credit Card Debts
Chase $18,055.92 $17,757.23 ($298.69)
Other Debts
Home Mortgage 38,514.44 38,465.14 (49.30)
Low Energy Loan 14,428.26 14,303.58 (124.68)
Line of Credit 23,141.91 22,826.29 (315.62)
Medical Debt 0.00 4,011.18 4,011.18
TOTAL Liabilities $94,140.53 $97,363.42 $3,222.89

Apparently I Feel Differently About Debt

Personal finance is really a pretty basic topic. For most people, money and what to do with it is just not that complicated:

  • Spend less than you make.
  • Put aside 10/15%+ for retirement.
  • Don’t use a credit card, or if you do, at least don’t keep a balance on it.
  • Pay off your debts as quickly as possible.


The last one is a little different for some though, at least for certain debts. Some are just fine with a little — or, more likely, a lot — of debt if it’s on your house. Or your student loans. Good debts. Debts on assets that earn.

Well, unless you bought a house in an area where the market is now melting down. The luster is off that house with a rapidly adjusting ARM worth 70% of what you paid 2 years ago. Likewise that $100,000+ masters degree in philosophy that allows you to eek out a living on $30,000 a year.

Still, there seems to be two groups who argue that paying extra on their mortgage or student loans debts is not for them, even if they can afford it:

“I’m Saving a Ton On My Taxes”

But wait… isn’t there a tax benefit with those two types of debt?

Oh, sure, if you think sending the bank $10,000 in mortgage interest to save $2,500 is a smart move. That’s assuming you would itemize without the mortgage anyway. If you are like most, and the only reason you qualify to itemize is because of mortgage interest, the ’savings’ is likely much less. Personally, we don’t see any advantage at all because we won’t itemize either way.

At least with a student loan interest, there is a tax benefit (but with the same trade-my-dollar-for-your-quarter nonsense) irregardless of whether you itemize or not. Unless, that is, you are single and make more than $50,000 ($100,000 if married) when you begin to get rapidly phased out of the deduction. But the real problem to me is: are you really fine paying on money, albeit borrowed at an ultra cheap rate of 2-4%, for a degree you earned 30 years ago, in a field you might not have worked in for 15 of those years? Long after which, the tax benefit becomes almost nil, as the deduction based on student loan interest paid, not on student loan payment?

“I Earn More by Not Paying My Debt”

With the low interest rate on those debts, isn’t the money I have better spent increasing my investments than decreasing those debts? And won’t paying the debt off with the earnings from those investments be quicker than directly paying them down?

Possibly.


For instance, right now we’re paying 5.69% on our mortgage. I’d be hard pressed to come up with a short-term investment that would beat that rate (which would be 7.6% pre-tax earnings) without taking on quite a bit of risk. Over longer terms, it is not a particularly difficult target to beat - a simple index fund should handily beat those returns over a, say, 15-year timeline if history is any indication. But of course, “Past performance is no guarantee of future results“.

The ultra-cheap student loan is a bit easier: a investment returning 5.34% pre-tax beats a 4% loan (by all of .005% :roll: , but it does beat it). Short-term investments are still a little iffy (but certainly not out of the question), but long-term should really be a no-brainer.

So at least over the long-term, financially it may make a sense to invest what you would otherwise prepay.

Not In Either Camp

Neither argument works for me.

The tax dodge route is, I’m sorry, just stupid. Paying a buck to get a quarter back makes you a moron. I don’t care if it brings your cost to borrow down to 1%; it’s still debt that you can do something about but you chose not to.

Using available funds for investing rather than debt repayment at least makes a bit of financial logic, though I think most who follow this route overestimate the potential returns and, more importantly, underestimate potential risks. Of course, the argument assumes one actually invests what would otherwise go to prepaying rather than just ratcheting up consumption. Or that one would use that future money to pay off that debt rather than, oh, buying a nice shiny new Lexus. There are some out there that are that disciplined, and god bless ya’… but I have a sneaky suspicion that most are not.

Nevertheless, we won’t be following the ‘logical’ route either. Probably because I don’t see debt the same way proponents of either method see it. To me, there is no distinction between good and bad debt. Debt is debt - an obligation to pay something to someone. What the debt was taken on for initially is really immaterial, and the quicker I can get it out of my life, the better.